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  1. The naturalist are always consulting the local population. It is part of their methodology for collecting data. Otherwise, this presentation looks more like a try to sell the "panacea" syrup. BTW, what if the food babes of the world create a mass hysteria for buying this good-for-everything muck? Poor achoque …

  2. I'm surprised that the comments here are so negative/along religious lines. That's not her argument. The point she is making is that scientific communities could benefit from the insight of non-scientific communities. It does not have to do with the product the sisters produce, but rather the value they see in the achoques that the scientists did not see. But the scientists were able to help the nuns continue their efforts and together, their collaboration is saving the species. We all want to save the planet (if you don't, then this talk probably isn't your cup of tea) and if we care enough about that, it might just mean that we have to collaborate with people who have ideologies that are different from our own.

  3. Ok so the nuns created a syrup and the claim is that It is a medicine that can fix all kinds of problems because they believe it works. I understand that some people think that they are much smarter and educated than other people nothing new. What I don’t see is any proof that it works, now the fact that they are preserving this creature so that they can continue to make a product and in some small way are keeping it from going out of existence the motivation to do so is profit. It may be the right thing to do, it is not biding done for the right reason and still we need to know does the product work? Ignorance is a coin that has two sides and in this case you will find people on both sides.

  4. Ok so the nuns created a syrup and the claim is that It is a medicine that can fix all kinds of problems because they believe it works. I understand that some people think that they are much smarter and educated than other people nothing new. What I don’t see is any proof that it works, now the fact that they are preserving this creature so that they can continue to make a product and in some small way are keeping it from going out of existence the motivation to do so is profit. It may be the right thing to do, it is not biding done for the right reason and still we need to know does the product work? Ignorance is a coin that has two sides and in this case you will find people on both sides.

  5. this is just a over generalized strawman against scientists.
    i can rattle off many examples of scientists (and government funding) getting together with locals to protect species. in fact you would be hard pressed to find counter examples.
    the ship expedition example given is the best example she could find? it's very old and has nothing to do with conservation

  6. The achoque is not a 'type of axolotl' any more than tiger salamanders are. Same genus, just as the tiger salamander is, different species. And good god, maybe listen to the pronunciation of these things you're presenting a TED Talk on when speaking with locals

  7. Or we can get the Forrest Galantes of the world, using the efforts of in-country, often Indigenous, workers to do the work for them and steal credit. Everyone that's a fan of his show should be aware of the mass theft of intellectual property, funding, and academic credit left behind by the show. It's taking the flattened hierarchy of ethnozoology and TEK discussed here and turning it into a tool for parachute science

  8. All the smiles in the world won't solve the world's problems, ecological or otherwise. Secularism and rationalism won't either; they can only solve most of them. Religion, on the other hand, is at best a neutral force, at worst the greatest force of evil humanity has ever known.

  9. The government franchise has, in South-Africa, caused a two decade drought by cutting out the trees, that lift the water from the water table to make rain, from the river courses and caused the commercial farmers' dams to fill with silt.

  10. The Invasive Species Act of 2003 enables the government franchise to exterminate prolific plants and animals that provide the people with free food, building material, medicine, security and pest control. Now people are paying through the neck for imported food that was irradiated to kill the seeds. The Invasive Species Act of 2003 is nothing more than a economic scorched earth policy dress up as environmental protection and makes poaching very attractive for desperate, starving and impoverished people.

  11. "Very few people believe in the devil these days, which suits the devil very well. He is always helping to circulate the news of his own death. The essence of God is existence, and He defines Himself as: 'I am Who am.' The essence of the devil is the lie, and he defines himself as: 'I am who am not.' Satan has very little trouble with those who do not believe in him; they are already on his side." Fulton J Sheen

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